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Tom Coyne's avatar

You understate the remarkable stupidity and ignorance of history when it comes to cutting contributions to public sector defined benefit pension plans - not to mention the use of expected return as the discount rate (rather than, say, a AA muni rate). I'm always amazed when I say to public pension beneficiaries or plan sponsors that discounting future liabilities at the expected return rate implies that their future pension payment are risky (unless the portfolio is all in mix of real return bonds that matches their size and timing, like the Bank of England does). The reply is always the same: "My pension payment isn't risky. It's guaranteed by (e.g., the Illinois state constitution, or my magic ring)". I'm sure that in the minds of public pension beneficiaries, it will be either the bondholders or the US taxpayers who will take the loss if and when the current Ponzi scheme runs out of road. For that reason, the coming public sector pension crisis is a classic "Grey Swan".

Thomas L. Hutcheson's avatar

No one but the federal government is really in a position to offer defined benefit pensions, so the whole under/over funded issue is a bad take. What KU says about how a defined contribution (deferred compensation) fund should work is of course correct.

Could we please let team managers decide on the optimal trade-off between wage and non-wage (WFH/non-commute) benefits and costs. OMB, CEO’s and media pundits/commentators are not in the best position to judge case by case.

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